I have been wearing these pants for 4 almost 5 years now.These pants have been worn through the worst trails & races so far without not even as ****** or tare in them.Their so comfortable & fit so well just like a Womens riding pant should fit.The rubber logos on the knees have lasted till now and have proven to do what they do best and that's to protect the knees from scuffs & bruises.The stitching is wearing out on the waist but that's because of all of the washing it's been through over the years.These are the best riding pants I have ever owned!